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Another one from the depths

11 Dec

My lunch time hunt happened at the same park and at the same spot on that park where I found the other old coins recently.

Maurice, my XP Deus metal detector, and I began our hunt just North of where the other coins where found. My first hole was a deep rusted nail. The second was a bottle cap because I always have to dig one. The third hole was a hole to nowhere where I may have been off on my pinpointing. The fourth hole produced this at around 10.5 inches deep with a very faint signal:



I am very excited about this. It proves that there are many silver coins left in the park. I am excited for the possibility of Seateds and gold coins.

Stay tuned.

More diatribe

4 Dec

I hunted for a short time today at the site where I’ve been finding old coins. I’m still perfecting the Money Making Protocol (MMP) with the trusty XP Deus.

So, if you don’t know already, I believe there are still thousands of silver coins in our city parks but they are either too deep or masked. The MMP is designed to find me the former and it didn’t disappoint this morning.

After digging a couple of very deep iron I got a signal within the parameters of the protocol. As per the protocol, I dug a 4-5 inch hole. If this was a small piece of foil, this is where I would find it. There was nothing in the plug nor in the hole. I then dug the hole further to the 9 inch level (the pinpointer is 9 inches long and it’s very handy for this step). If this was a coin, it would be in the dirt or in the hole. I explored the dirt that I dug up and found nothing. I then put the pinpointer in the hole and got a weak ding. I cleaned the hole and pinpointed again and the target was a bit off center but at the bottom. At this point, I expected to find deep iron and dug a couple of inches more of dirt. I applied the pinpointer to the new excavated dirt and got a nice solid bang. Still expecting iron I was pleasantly surprised to see this:


Yep, this puppy was down about 10 inches. Now, there is only moderate wear on it so I think it was dropped near the date of minting.

1912 Barber, Philadelphia mint.

I am very excited for the possibilities. I know there are more Seated coins in that park and I aim to get me at least one.

Thank you for looking!

The Money Maker Protocol

18 Nov

Yesterday I went to a very old park in the city. I won’t call it a hunted out park because, really, ALL our parks are hunted out! Anyway, a couple of years ago, a pair of detectorists hit this park with their E-tracs and pulled a number of very cool coins out of there. Needless to say, scores of other detectorists descended upon this park but none repeated the impressive results the two guys with their Minelabs achieved.
The park is, of course, very trashy and, as it is very popular today, the trash continues to pile up.

I myself have hunted this park a number of times and managed to pull a silver coin now and again. This time however, I took my XP Deus to this park with a very specific protocol in mind. Protocol is a fancy word for what you all do now when detecting. Do you dig a signal or not? The answer to that question depends on your protocol.

I specifically wanted to try the spot where the two guys mentioned above found all their coins. Heck, I was there for one of their hunts and watched as one of them dug up a super cool Seated dime. I know they did a very thorough job at that spot but being me, and the reputation of the E-track notwithstanding,  I believe there are still many cool coins to be had there.

I walked to the very spot where KansasDave found that Seated dime that morning and I began applying my protocol. I had to dig a couple of rusted bottle caps to establish some parameters and then I began to seriously look for treasure. Not long I had a couple of signals that fit the criteria of the Money Making Protocol. The first coin was a wheat minted in 1919. Cool. Next signal was a wheat from 1918.  Next signal turned out to be a very toasted V nickel. I can barely make out the first two numbers of the date: 18xx.

I continued and dug up a couple of small pieces of aluminum foil. The protocol is susceptible to this so I still need to refine it. Not to worry though as my next signal gifted me with this beauty:

A 1917 Type 1 Standing Liberty Quarter.

A few feet away, the next signal turned out to be a 1901 Barber dime with a New Orleans mint mark:


The last signal of the hunt was a very deep 1964 memorial. Geez!

So I think that the Money Maker Protocol is a winner. I wouldn’t apply this protocol to just any park. It is designed for very old parks.


Hopefully I will get to hunt a bit more this Fall and Winter.

Thank you for stopping by!

My 2 Cents Worth

22 Aug

Friday morning, as I was heading in to work, I noticed that they had removed a sidewalk across the street from my office. My office sits at the site of the first Presbyterian church in town back in the early days of the city. I have seen pictures of it and it was pretty much a dug out.

I didn’t think much of the tear out because I figured it would be covered by the time I left work. When I left work however, about  1/3 of it was still open so I slammed on the brakes, found a place to park, and Maurice and I went to work.

My second swing (really!) produced a signal just north of pull tab. I decided to dig it and 4 inches down, I found a coin slightly larger than a U.S. nickel and made of copper or bronze. To say I was excited is an understatement.


Images of Seateds and gold coins dancing in my head, I continued the hunt for another hour and a half. Unfortunately, nothing else came out. The site was heavily iron laden as multiple railroad lines ran through here until about 10 years ago. It was really cool because I hit a couple of very old wooden foundations.

Thinking I had a large cent, I went home and began the process of cleaning the coin. To my surprise, what was revealed was, in my opinion, something cooler than a large cent: a 2 cent coin!

I tried cleaning it further with masking tape and the freezing method which removed the dirt but not the iron encrustations. Finally, today, I soaked the coin in WD-40 and managed to expose a bit of the date: 1864, my oldest coin to date.



I am doubly proud of having found this coin in my city. This coin was dropped by one of Wichita’s early inhabitants. I wonder what was going through his or her head as they walked along, possibly to attend church just a few yards away. I am still missing that Seated coin but this is definitely one off my list. It almost makes up for the total lack of detecting for me this year.

Thank you for stopping by!

Hunt, interrupted

11 Jul

So all my hopes and dreams were dashed against the cruel rocks of chance.

A little dramatic I know, but darn that sharp rock I stepped on while goofing around with my boys in the waves!

No more beach hunting for me since the cut, albeit in much better shape, is still tender to walk on.

Had fun doing it once however, and plans have been made for another visit to the West coast (and a future trip to the Eastern seaboard as well, yippee!) so I have two chances to redeem myself and also to try beach hunting with a sand scoop.

Thank you for stopping by.

Long Beach – day two

9 Jul

I awoke today with great expectations. This was my first beach hunt ever. There was enough light at 6am to venture out onto the surf. At that time here, there were a few people on the beach, not counting the beach bums sleeping here and there.

I was expecting to see other detectorists but no one else was detecting. The beach was all mine. I began at the volleyball nets where I had seen quite a few people playing yesterday but I came up with nothing. Next I moved to the wet sand. Luckily for me, the Deus comes with a pre-loaded wet sand program. Here’s what I found:

The one thing in that picture that should blow your mind is that beaver tail pull tab. The fact that the tab has been missed since at least 1975 (the last year beaver tail tabs were put on cans) is not because hunters have been careless but more than likely is due to the fact that the beach is huge. There are a quadrillion square inches to be hunted.


So after a couple of hours I decided to call it and headed back to the hotel. On my way back, I picked as much money from the parking lots on the way as I dug up on the beach. And the number one lesson I learned today is:


I hope there is a metal detecting shop somewhere near where I can pick one up for the next few days.

Thank you for stopping by.

Another controversial post

6 Mar

I took my XP Deus metal detector, Maurice, to an old park I frequent. I have found my share of silver at this park. The park goes back over 100 years so there are old, deep coins there. As with all the parks in my beloved city, this one has been hunted thoroughly. So it was sort of a surprise when, upon moving to a spot new to me, I began to find clad. In the 40 minutes I was there I found four clad dimes and two memorials, all from the 60’s with the exception of a 1959 memorial and none deeper than 5 inches.

Now my friend Steve would say that somebody cherry-picked the silver. But I don’t believe that is possible. Yes, let me put that succinctly: You Can Not Cherry-pick Silver.

Oh I can hear you all now: “You ignorant fool”, “What do YOU know, pulltab?”, “I know a guy who can do it”. Yes, it is true that I don’t know every machine out there. But I don’t have to. All I have to know is this: If there was a machine out there that could cherry-pick silver, it would by now, be the only machine in the market, having put all other brands out of business.

Wha-wha-wha-whaaaaat!!?? Yes. This is why that would happen. We, metal detectorists we, are braggarts. We love to show off our finds. That is why we have blogs, forums and clubs and that is why we like to hunt with friends. The second we unearth something shiny and cool, we turn into 9 year olds again, and we rush to tell our buddies about it. And our friends oblige and ooh and aah at our cool, cool find. Don’t deny it. I’ve seen it happen many times. When my friend lawdog1 found his super cool Seated quarter, I was doing cartwheels for him, and I thought he was the coolest guy in the world because he found that coin.

And so, if there was a detector out there that could cherry-pick silver, we would ALL know about it by now. And we would know whatever settings we needed to make the cherry-picking happen. No matter how well guarded the secret, somebody would tell his close friend, who would tell his close friend, who would brag about it in a forum. When LookingForSeated and those guys were finding all that silver with their E-tracs, suddenly everyone was buying etracs. When people began finding all kinds of cool things with their AT Pro, the AT Pro began to sell like hot cakes. So when this mythical machine appears, this pattern will hold.

Now, this is not to say that the Etrac and the AT Pro are not good machines; they are in fact, very good machines, but neither of them can cherry-pick silver. I have hunted with enough Etrac users by now, to know that the Etrac users will get fooled by an aluminum wine screwcap as often as AT Pro users are. I, with the mighty Deus, still dig aluminum screw caps because they can sound just like a dime. About the only time a detector might cherry-pick silver is if the conditions are ideal, the user fully experienced with the machine, and the dimes are on the surface, laying flat.

But don’t let me bring you down. I myself will be very sad the day they finally make a machine that can id a buried object with 100% accuracy at 24 inches deep. Right now I rather enjoy the uncertainty of metal detecting; it makes finding those keepers so much sweeter.

***Ozarks from the Ozarks Metal Detecting Blog, points out that you can cherry pick tones and I agree. That’s the best you can hope for. But if you are leaving coins in the ground because you are sure they are not silver, please let me know where you hunt! :)***

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Windy and silvery

11 Feb

I went to Riverside park at lunch time today. Maurice was itching to find some silver. It was cold and windy but a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

I actually went looking for gold. It has been a while since I found any of the yellow stuff. Plus, I need the cash; to get me one of them Blisstools.

So there I was looking for pull tab signals when I run into my first old coin; a dateless Buffalo. A little later I got a screamer of a dime signal and produced a 1977 clad dime. A few feet away, I got another screaming dime signal. Thinking that I was going to pull out another clad dime, imagine my surprise when I saw that shinny 1939 Mercury dime!



At the end, besides the coins, I ended up with 6 pull tabs and about a dozen pieces of can slaw. It seems to me, judging by the endless foil signals, that someone lined up a dozen or so aluminum cans and just ran the mower on top of them. Can slaw is at the top of my most hated trash to dig up. Alas, I have to take the bad with the good.

Thank you for stopping by!

The Tale Of Two Wheat Cents

22 Jan

Yesterday I went to another old park in my city at lunch time. Since I’ve changed the settings on my XP Deus metal detector, I have yet again began to revisit old sites that I thought were bereft of good targets.

At this spot, back in 2013, I found two war nickels and one mercury dime from the 20’s plus a handful of wheats from the 40’s and 50’s. I began hunting with my new settings and before my lunch hour was over I had managed to find two more wheats; one, at a little over 8 inches deep, was a 1927D.

The other one, found at about 5 inches deep, was a 1952D.

What’s interesting about these two wheats is the difference in depth at which they were found. As I said before, at this spot I had found a handful of coins from the 40’s and 50s. I remember well that those coins were also found around 5 inches deep except for the merc from the 20’s which was found around 8 inches deep.

So why the difference? The answer lies on the fact that back at the turn of the century, a house sat at the spot. You can see the house in a 1938 aerial photograph of the park but not in a 1950 aerial photograph of the same park. What makes me think that the house was built at the turn of the century and not after you may ask? There are houses on the opposite side of the street that are of the Italianate style (that’s the proper name of the style we call Victorian) and so I assume that the house that stood at that spot of the park was also of the same style. I could be wrong.

The important fact however is that by 1950, the house was gone and the land had become part of the park. This brings me to the mystery of the different depths for the coins. I posit that the coins from the 40’s and 50’s were dropped by people using the park after the house was gone but the older coins from the 20’s were dropped by the inhabitants of said house while the house was still standing.

This is probably of no interest whatsoever to neurologically typical folk (that’s fancy scientific talk for what we call normal) but to metal detectorists, this information is of great value. Now I know that there are things from an earlier time deep in the dirt there. I am still digging old house parts from there; you know, the stuff made of brass and ornate even though they were utilitarian objects such as valves and such. Another thing that I now know is that I must remove all the trash near the surface so that I can reveal all the deep and old stuff that is being masked.

One last thing; I tell people that a mid level detector such as the AT Pro or the F5 is good enough to find 80% of what a high end detector will. This begs the question as to why we should spend the money on a high end detector. The answer is that a high end detector can grow and change and add dimensions to your hunt. I am not advocating you should run and spend a couple of grand on a new machine. Let your present machine pay for a new machine later. When you are more experienced and are ready to expand your hunt, consider a high end machine.

Thank you for stopping by!

The Old Standby

30 Jul

I am glad to have a standby park that will provide me with silver in lean times. I have spoken about this park extensively in the past and I am happy to know that other people have began to hunt it besides me. I know there are 1000’s of coins still under that dirt, alas, a little too deep for most detectors today. I plan on buying a Russian detector later this year that will hopefully get me to those coins.

Anyway, I decided to hunt the ol’ standby at lunch today in spite of a light drizzle falling and getting everything wet. By the way, the XP Deus is almost water proof as the stock headphones are rain proof. If you remove the controller and put it in your pocket (or in a zip lock bag) you’re good to go in the rain.

It was a good hunt:


A dateless Buffalo (only the second one this year), a 1946 wheat, and a 1958 Roosevelt dime. The button is kind of cool too. It reminds me of the coat buttons of the 50’s and 60’s.

So this year has been very different than last year, both in the time dedicated to the hobby and in the number of finds but I won’t complain too much as I am very blessed elsewhere. Perhaps this year will be a year of quality instead of quantity. I mean, I already found a Shield nickel, who knows what else is around the corner?

Keep on swinging!