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An interesting token

25 Oct

I stopped by a very old park where I have found a number of silver coins and some big gold before. I only intended to hunt for maybe 10 minutes mostly to test something.  After I dug up a couple of very deep chunks of iron, I got another such deep signal and after digging an 11+ inch hole I thought for sure I would find yet another chunk of rusted iron when to my surprise, a round shape was sitting on the dirt:

For a split second I thought I had a large cent but my brain quickly discarded that idea. I could see the date plainly: 1837 and the back had a design common to British coins so I thought I had a British coin but I was wrong on that count as well.

This is a British gaming token known as a Cumberland Jack. The token was first minted in 1837 when young Victoria became queen. Because she was a woman, queen Victoria could not assume the throne of Hanover due to some law that prohibited women from ruling that part of the world. So that post went to a certified jackass duke of Cumberland. This token was made in derision of him. The token was outlawed in 1883, which coincidentally, is one year before the park I found this beauty at was opened.

This is not the first token I’ve found with a super cool history. A few years ago I found a token from the East. You can read about it here.

Not the Seated coin I was looking for but alas, it is a very cool token if you ask me.

Thank you for stopping by.

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First hunt of 2014

1 Jan

Although we were expecting snow today, it was not to happen until the afternoon so I grabbed Maurice and headed into 2014 full of hope. I went to the same school I went to last year on my first hunt of 2013. The school campus is so large that there had to be a keeper or two left.

After about an hour of digging clad, I got a sweet signal and I went for it. I will never get tired of seeing that edge in the coin ball”
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The winner of 2014’s first silver coin of the year is a 1947D Roosevelt dime:
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Next I found a cool holed token. This token was made by the Pace Manufacturing Company from 1927 until the 1940’s. It went into vending machines also made by the same company, such as the Bantam Mint Vending machine. The vending machines also doubled as slot machines in that after you made the purchase, you also could get tokens back that could be traded for merchandise. It was a clever way to get around anti-gambling laws:
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I spent two hours at the school and I left as I did last year feeling that I haven’t yet even scratched the surface. By the way, I found 10 nickels.
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So we are off.

Thank you for looking

Mystery token

27 Dec

Today was beautiful so I went out in search of the last silver coin of 2013. I did not find a silver coin but I found yet another M.K. token. A quick Google search revealed that M.K. (Mein Kempf) tokens were created by the followers of Adolf Hitler while he sat in jail in Germany before he became the supreme German leader. His followers would take public transportation tokens and stamp M.K. on the reverse.

The token I found seems to be a machine made replica of those tokens. I have found nothing on these on the Net but my guess is that the American Nazis of the 30’s created them in homage to their cause in Germany.  Interestingly, as a young man in Wichita, while riding the bus, I overheard an old man tell someone else about the headquarters of the Nazi Party in our fair city.  That was until Pearl Harbor, then the Nazis suddenly disappeared from public life.  The building still stands, albeit abandoned, and for the longest time it was a church. Every time I drive by I want to detect the small sidewalk grass strip. Maybe some day they will tear up the parking lot. Wouldn’t that be an interesting hunt!

As I said, this is the second one I’ve found. This one was about 7 inches down.

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The 2 1/2 refers to the value of the original tokens; 2 1/2 pfennig.

Of course, I could be all wrong.

Token spill

9 Oct

At lunch today, Maurice and I stopped at Riverside park for a bit of hunting. I only had about 20 minutes to hunt and I wanted to look for old coins.

I hit a spot that has produced some very old coins and relics. I was hoping for a repeat but I only got one signal that was interesting. Maurice was showing a bit of black on the old horse shoe (this means nothing to anyone not using a Deus metal detector) which meant the target was deep-ish. I went for it and this is what I found (Lincoln cent for size reference):

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The token on the left is a Goetz telephone token used in the Chicago area only. These were made from 1907 to 1944 by a company named Yale Slot and Slug Company. The company was owned by a druggist named Harry Goetz and he made these tokens until they become illegal in 1944 (don’t know why they became illegal). The token reads “Y. S. & S Co. Y40” the other side reads: “USA Y40”. I believe the Y40 refers to the year 1940. There are 200 or so designs of this token and many of them have a year on them.

The token on the right is less interesting and I guess is from the same time period.  The other side of this token reads “Good for Amusement Only”.

No coins today but the tokens are kind of cool.

Thank you for looking!

1928 D Mercury dime

5 Jun

For lunch today, my XP Deus metal detector and I returned to the spot where I found the 1941 Merc yesterday.

I decided to concentrate on a relatively small area. After I found a couple of wheat cents, I knew that I had selected the right place. Soon I got a deep signal with no VDI but with a sweet tone. I dug a 7 inch hole and the target was still in the hole but barely under the bottom. One more scoopful brought up the coin ball:

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Have I mentioned that I just LOVE seeing that silver edge poking out of the dirt?

After I released the coin from its dirt jail, I saw that it was a 1928 D Merc in bad shape. It it heavily scratched and worn but I’ll take it.

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The last target that was not trash, was a Kansas 2 Mil tax token. It was a fun hunt and I hope to take more keepers from there.

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Thank you for looking!

Masked Barber

24 Apr

I met Steveouke at lunch for a quick hunt around the spot where I found the Indian Head yesterday. I got there a couple of minutes before he did and got to swing the detector a few times before I got a solid nickel signal. I dug a relatively shallow hole only to find an old piece of tin instead of a nickel. I ran the coil over the hole out of habit before covering it again and I got the sweet, silky, tell-tale audio signal and a solid VDI of 91. Gasp! This signal did not exist prior to me removing the tin from the hole! I dug maybe an inch deeper and out came this pretty thing:

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I was taking the picture of the dirty coin when Stevo arrived. He was just in time to see the coin with the fresh dirt on it.

When I find a coin with very little wear as this one, I infer that it was dropped soon after it was minted. So someone lost this precious in the early years of the 20th century. How cool is that?

Soon after, I dug a signal on the wheat range and I found an old bullet. Now, about 100 yards away from where we were hunting, there is a row of houses. I know for a fact that one of those houses was built in 1901. Would someone be firing their rifle so close to these houses? I’d like to think not and I’d like to think this bullet is pre 1900’s.

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It looks as if the bullet hit the Buffalo.

My lunch hour went much quicker than I like and I left Stevo hunting in the park.

AT ANOTHER PARK, AT AN EARLIER DATE

I hunted my deep silver park the other day and found a bunch of wheats as always and these two things.

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I remember the first time I found a Kansas tax token. I was so intrigued by it. Now, they don’t excite me as much although they are an old and cool find. This one is one mil. Rarer for me are the 2 mil ones. They are made of aluminum and they never come up in good shape.

During that same hunt, I dug a deep iron signal and I found this:

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A tiny lead Saint Christopher. The fact that it is made of lead and the fact that it was over 8 inches deep tells me it is an old relic. The mystery to me is that it doesn’t appear to be part of a pendant but rather it seems to be a tiny statue. As you can see, it has a flat base that allows it to stand. There are remnants of the black paint that covered it at one time and the word GERMANY is stamped on the base. The Barber is used for size comparison. Interesting.

I am taking a trip this Saturday to the Eastern Kansas border for a Karate tournament. I hope to have an hour or so to hunt an old park I know about.  I am going back to the 1840’s and 1850’s time-wise and maybe, just maybe, I may be able to find a Seated coin.

Wish me luck.

Twins

11 Apr

Since I didn’t get to detect in March, I decided to try to catch up a little so I took Maurice, my XP Deus metal detector, to the Iron Pit for a two hour hunt after work.

I began at the Iron Pit proper but after getting no diggable signals I moved off a little and after a few minutes I had wraparound signal with no VDI and iffy audio with just enough sweetness. I dug my obligatory 7 inch hole and just below the surface of the bottom I got a nice solid hit with the Garrett pinpointer. One more dirt scoop with the old Lesche revealed that much beloved silver edge. Out came a 1929 Mercury dime.

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I continued my hunt and after a few minutes I got another iffy signal although this one was better defined than the first one. I dug the hole and again, somewhere between 7 and 8 inches I found another little dirt ball with a gorgeous reeded edge! And wouldn’t you know it, it was another 1929 Mercury dime!

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Right about that time, I heard a little girl ask someone what it was I was doing. The father of the girl said I was metal detecting. I looked up and asked her if she wanted to see my coins. They both came over and I showed them the dimes. The dad was very impressed and the little girl thought the coins were pretty. While they were admiring the coins a woman with her dog stopped to see the coins and then another man with his dog stopped and I had an audience! The man with the dog told me he had gotten 5 Mercury dimes from a dime roll once. He knew about coins because he explained to my audience that although they are commonly known as Mercury dimes, the proper name is Winged Liberty.

Anyway, it was kind of cool to have people not judge me and instead have them appreciate my finds.

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After that I found three wheats, the earliest being a 1916, a Kansas tax token, some clad dimes, and a No Cash Value token.

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Not a bad hunt.

Thank you for looking!

Saturday morning

26 Jan

Excited as I was with my finds from yesterday, I decided to hunt early this morning before I had to go to my Karate class. I grabbed Maurice and headed into the cold morning with the aim of finding some deep silver at my deep silver park.

I returned to the spot where I found the war nickel and the wheats. I found more deep wheats and a good luck token:

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Before I ran out of time, I decided to change spots and I am glad I did!

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This Standing Liberty quarter gave me a rather faint signal. It was all of seven inches deep. I was surprised to find it in fact because I thought a quarter would give a stronger signal at that depth. It is worn and maybe that’s why. It may have also been at an odd angle. You can see faint stars under the eagle on the reverse so it is older than 1916.

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This is the very first silver quarter I have found at this park in over a year and a half of hunting it. This is also my first silver quarter of 2013 and my first SLQ of 2013.

It was not a bad morning hunt.

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Thank you for looking!

Good In Trade

9 Jan

I just love trade tokens! I went looking for silver at lunch time with Maurice –my Deus metal detector, and I found a trade token instead.

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I thought I had a shield nickel for a split second. My heart did a flip but then my subconscious took over and brought me back to reality. Rubbing off some of the dirt revealed the words around the edge.

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The obverse has the words Good For 5¢ In Trade and the reverse has the number 3413 and nothing else.

The token also has a small hole in the middle. The hole seems to be part of the token’s original design as it blends very well with the token unlike holes bored after the production of the piece. The hole is a curious thing though as it cuts through the middle of some of the characters. I wonder what the function of it is. I also wonder what the number on the reverse means. How did the token system worked? Who issued tokens like this with no identifying information? When was this token issued?

I found this token where I found the Walking Liberty in the last days of 2012. I have found several old tokens there including other trade tokens of a different design. I know other hunters have found trade tokens here as well which leads me to believe that there may have been a store at the site in the past.

At any rate, after finding this and other tokens, me thinks more silver coins are hiding at this spot.

Thank you for looking!

Never, never, never, NEVER!…

4 Dec

…skip a site because you’ve heard it has been hunted out.

This year, while hunting a postage stamp-sized park from the late 1800’s with some friends, I found a gold bracelet that at 10K –the bracelet was unmarked, will bring around $400 U.S. once melted. The park is notorious for not yielding anything anymore and yet, there it was, under the coil of my XP Deus metal detector.

The reason why a place is likely to never be hunted out is three-fold:

1) People continue to use a site, even empty lots, and thus the site is replenished with new drops.

2) People who have hunted the place may not have been at the top of their game and thus missed lots of stuff.

3) Considering that a typical target takes up about a square inch of space, well, you do the math.

Plus, there is another mystery to consider here. I don’t know why, and I doubt anyone else knows either, there are many targets that will only be detected at a very specific angle. I had read about this phenomenon from day one but I experienced it first hand well into my first year of detecting. I had hit a private yard from two directions perpendicular to each other (90 degrees) and had returned to do a diagonal search. Going over a spot I had gone over twice in the previous hunts, I got a sweet signal on the AT Pro (my machine at the time) and a VDI that said quarter. I couldn’t believe that I had missed this before. So I decided to go around the target and run my coil over it from different directions. To say that I was shocked is an understatement. I only had to deviate about 15 degrees before I lost the signal completely. COMPLETELY! Not a peep. Not a grunt, whisper, moan. Nothing. Unless I hit the target from that very narrow angle. I dug the hole and at about 4 inches or so, if memory serves me right, I pulled a dateless Standing Liberty quarter.

So lets now think about the fact that a typical target will occupy about 1 square inch of space. Even in a small park, or lot, or yard, we will have a sizable number of square inches to contend with. Add that to the fact that the majority of hunters don’t grid as carefully as they should, or if they do, they eventually tire and get careless, and now you’re beginning to see why there are still good targets left everywhere. Now, remember those targets that will only sound off at a very specific angle and my point is made.

Last, I want to mention something Tom Dankowski says (Tom is a legend of this hobby). “80% of all dropped coins ever, are still in the ground”. He says this because there are several factors making these coins undetectable, the main one being masking. Another one is depth. Tom says that these coins will yield only to the very experienced hunters or to metal detectors of the future.

So there. Don’t be discouraged, the stuff is there. Go get it.

***you can tell when I am not hunting or when I am not finding anything because I start waxing philosophical LOL!***

Thank you for looking!