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Me and the CZ-3D…

16 Apr

…are getting well acquainted.

I went out yesterday evening for a couple of hours to Sims Park. The evening was beautiful. It was cool and the sun was on the western horizon and everything was bathed in the sweet light.

I worked an area where I had pulled some wheats from the 20’s with the V3i.  At first, I was digging what seemed to be an endless supply of aluminum screw tops. I wish I could remember when soda pop bottles stopped having those aluminum caps and began having the plastic ones. Anyway,  eventually I hit a high, soft, and repeatable signal that pinpointed at six inches deep. I cut a plug and out came a 1917D wheat cent. A few minutes later, I got a composite signal that went from iron to all coin on the CZ-3D.  I moved around the target and the signal remained the same. I pinpointed and the depth indicated was six inches as well. I dug the hole and I found a 1953 wheat at the bottom of it. At that point, I realized I had just learned something new about the CZ-3D.  And that is, when the CZ gives a combination signal, pay attention to what the iron portion of the signal sounds like. The iron signal will give you as much information as the high signal about what you have under the coil. Of course, by the time I had this epiphany, I needed to get back home so I couldn’t test further. On my way to the car I found two clad dimes and a very old copper muffin mold.

various metal objects and coins

The spoils

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Before the killer storm with the CZ-3D

14 Apr

I got out early this morning to hunt my favorite park; McAdams. When I got there, the Wichita Police Department was setting up for their Anti-Gang thing they do every year. I managed to find some nickels including a 1930-something Buffalo and an old lipstick case. I decided to try a different park after an hour or so.  There, I found a 1944 wheat cent and an old tag that I can’t make out.

various metal objects

My morning hunt from two parks

Buffalo nickel

With a magnifying glass you can see the 193x

Later in the evening, I went out to my neighborhood park and found a 1951 wheat and a cool child’s ring with Donald Duck on it. I can tell the ring is old by the style in which Donald was drawn.

various metal objects

My evening hunt.

childs ring

Notice Donald is old school on this ring

Silver eludes me with the CZ-3D. Still I will use it for a while longer.

And no, the killer storm has not appeared as of 8 pm.

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Dog Poop Town Dog Tag

13 Apr

I hunted Dog Poop Town (DPT) at lunch time. In case you don’t know, DPT is an apartment complex where everyone owns a dog and no one cleans up after their dog. Today was humid and warm and the dog poo smell was strong. Poop smell notwithstanding,  DPT is a promising site where a very old neighborhood once stood.

I did  a little more research and found that in 1972, the old neighborhood was still there, albeit, in decay. By 1980, the old neighborhood was gone and DPT was new and happening. I remember my sister had an apartment nearby  in 1983 and the whole area looked really cool.

Today I found a little clad, a little trash, and a 1936 Dog Tax tag. This is only the third city dog tag I’ve ever found. The first one was a 1980 dog tag I found in Oak park and the second was the 1901 Dog Tax tag I found near the Girl Scout House in Riverside park.

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Dog Poop Town loot

I don’t know why finding an old coin doesn’t make me think of personal history the way a relic does. Finding this 1936 dog tax tag made me think of the person who owned this dog. Obviously, he or she was a law abiding citizen who paid his dog tax for that year. Did this person follow the 1936 Olympics in Germany? Did he read about Jesse Owens embarrassing Hitler by winning a slew of gold medals? Was this person rooting for the Yankees or for the Giants in the 1936 World Series? Were they young? old? employed? Were they concerned about the large hobo camp in nearby Riverside park that formed as a result of 25% unemployment (Great Depression)? What kind of dog was it?

Wichita 1936 dog tax tag

Dog number 1743 registered that year

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Lunch hunt with the CZ-3D

10 Apr

At lunch, I went to an old school site. The school that once stood there was torn down about two or three years ago and the site is now a city park. The school opened in the very early years of the 20th century and so the potential for very old coins is there, except that the school was hunted heavily long before it was demolished and has been hunted heavily ever since. So my expectations for this hunt were to find a Jefferson nickel or two and because of the low expectations I hunted loosely without even bothering to overlap my swings. At the end of my 45 minutes I was surprised by my finds.

various metal objects

The wheels on the bus go 'round no more

I was very surprised by the toy cars. They usually sound like quarters on many detectors so why were they missed? The clad dime was another unexpected find. Four inches in the ground surely people didn’t leave it there on purpose! But the real shocker was the 1917 Lincoln cent. This baby was a little over six inches deep.  This wheat cent has the distinction of being the oldest coin I’ve dug up with the CZ-3D.

1917 Lincoln cent

Unexpected!

Seems as if I need to grid this little site!

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1977 Jefferson nickel

10 Apr

1977 Jefferson nickel

This is Jefferson nickel number eight from around the Girl Scout House in Riverside park since I got the CZ-3D a couple of weeks ago. I missed these eight nickels with my V3i. To boot, I’ve re-scanned only about 10% of the area. Who knows how many more Jeffersons are in there, not to mention Buffaloes and V nickels, along with other goodies. I am stoked!

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I am number Eight

The 10.5 inch coil is in

9 Apr

The mailman delivered the 10.5 inch coil for the CZ-3D at 5:10pm! We never get the mail that late. Must be a new guy.

This meant that I only had ten to fifteen minutes to try the new coil. I put the new coil on and ran to the old trashy park (aka Riverside park). I purposely hit an area of the park that I have hunted before and so has everybody else lately. The first thing I noticed was how much heavier the larger coil was than the 8 inch coil. I am really going to have to move the control box off the rod to my belt.

Also, right away, I noticed I was picking up deeper targets. I could tell because I could really hear the modulation working. With the 8 inch coil, I didn’t really hear the difference in tone between targets. I believe this was due to the fact that with the 8 inch coil I was only hitting the top six inches of dirt, whereas with the 10.5 I was going much deeper. I pinpointed a few of the signals and sure enough, most were hitting the 7 and 8 inch depth mark.

Eventually, I had to dig a few to see how the new coil was really doing. The first couple of signals were foil signals. I selected them because they sounded deep. Only one of the foil signals turned out to be a deepish –7 inches deep piece of very old foil. The other was actually a very small piece of foil on the surface.

On to some high tones I went. I picked a couple of very faint high signals but I never reached them. Digging very deep holes with the Lesche is just awkward. The next three high tones I dug were all in the Nickel slot. The first two were the ubiquitous beaver tails, both around six inches deep. The last signal of my 15 minute trial was a nickel signal and this one turned out to be a 1964 Jefferson nickel, only five inches deep but completely on its side. I chuckled because I knew I had just read that area with the V3i this morning and this signal surely came up as iron trash on it.

And that’s the whole reason why I bought the CZ-3D. This machine puts me on a category of signals that other detectors will read as undesirable trash. I don’t mean to pick on the V3i. A couple of Etracs ran over that same piece of dirt and they didn’t dig any of the nickels that I’ve recovered since with the CZ-3D either. It’s just the nature of these coins and these machines.

The CZ-3D was created for just this situation; coins that read as trash.

Thank you for looking!

Dog Poop Town

4 Apr

One day, when I was just starting in the hobby with the Ace 250, I was scouting for locations to hunt and I decided to cut through an apartment complex on my way somewhere else. As I was walking past their courtyard, the first thing I noticed was that everyone in the complex owned dogs. At least it seemed to me that way because of the amount of dog poo laying around. The second thing that grabbed my attention were the  coins that were strewn about on top of  the dirt. As I began picking them up I realized each and every one was a wheat cent, ranging in date from the 20’s to the 40’s. I could tell that these coins had been washed out by the rain.  I was so excited that I forgot this complex was private property. I hunted the courtyard with the 250 but found only old trash.

Eventually I returned with the AT Pro and found my 1899 Barber quarter. I did some research and found that this was the site of one of the first neighborhoods in Wichita.

I went by today after work and hunted for 15 minutes with the CZ-3D before the rain and hail drove me away. I love this place. I call it Dog Poop Town. It is target rich and it is dangerous (I had a dangerous looking guy shadow me from a distance today)

The two ‘relics’ are from the 19th century.

Various and sundry things

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The LOST nickels

3 Apr

Knowing that rain was moving in today, I went hunting early in the morning before work. I returned to the spot where I found the Indian Head cents and the Buffalo nickels back in February. The site has been hunted heavily before I found those coins and after. I know in March the spot was hit hard by two Etracs, two V3i’s, one Teknetics G2, an Ace 250, a Bounty Hunter, and an ancient White’s with no tone id. And that’s just the people I know about! At least three of us grid so the chances of finding anything left is minimal.

But the CZ-3D is a totally different animal. It’s not that the CZ-3D assigns a high tone to nickel signals.  I can do that with the V3i and I’ll be digging pull tabs all day long! No, the CZ-3D sees the nickels differently. It also sees all other old coins differently. So this morning I found three nickels that we all missed. My guess is that if I checked these signals with my other detectors, they would have sounded like trash.

So I am happy with the CZ-3d. I’ve ordered the 10.5″ spider coil to get at the deeper coins. I forecast more Buffalo nickels and maybe even V nickels in  my near future, to say nothing of other old coins that may be registering as trash to everyone else.

Three Jefferson nickels

I missed these and so did everyone else

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A typical CZ hunt so far

1 Apr

I better post about a hunt so I don’t completely bore everyone to tears.

I went out for a couple of hours with the CZ-3D this afternoon with results similar to previous hunts with this unit. This time I picked an area custom made for this machine. The site dates from the late 1800’s to the middle 1950’s with little modern trash.

No nickels this time but everything else was pretty much the same: some wheats, some old memorials from the 60’s, and assorted trash.

coins and metal trash

It will be fun to see what I am finding after three months with this machine

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The CZ-3D after 20 hours or so

1 Apr

I’ve had the Fisher CZ-3D for a little over a week now and have hunted with it for two weekends. I say I have put in at least twenty hours of hunting with it and this is what I have to say.

But before I write anything, I have to tell you that Tom Dankowski, the designer of the CZ-3D says that one should hunt for three months with the unit before making any judgement calls. Keep that in mind as you read my post.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. The unit works as advertised. 100%. Period. It finds nickels and it finds them with a high tone. Although the machine was designed to find more old coins of all types, it is a common occurrence now to come home with a 100% nickels. Yep. No dimes, no cents, no quarters; just nickels. What this means to me is that other hunters have depleted the other coins and ignored the nickels because in their machines, these nickels may have come in as pull tabs and they were left in the ground.

Also, I was warned that this machine is not good on newer sites and boy, was Tom right! You will dig endless amounts of beaver tails –they come in as nickels, and square pull tabs which hit on the zinc facet. Unfortunately for me, the very old parks in the city, are still heavily used today so if I want to get some of the old coins, I have to dig a lot of trash.

The thing that I am a little disappointed about is the effective depth of the machine. To be fair, Tom never said that this machine was deeper than any other machines. The legend of the CZ’s depth was created by its users. I’ve noticed when hunting, that the deepest coin I’ve found thus far, a nickel, was at a depth of six inches. From ground level to six inches, I have found many, many nickels and many other things but not deeper. Except for rusty nails that is, and we know those don’t count.
I finally took the CZ to my test garden. Yes, I say that with a certain amount of tongue in cheek. My test garden consists of three clad dimes that I buried in my yard in the Summer of 2011. One is at a depth of six inches, another at a depth of eight inches, and yet another at a depth of ten inches.
***It is possible that the dimes have now shifted or gone deeper so take this test with a grain of salt***

The CZ easily sees the clad dime at six inches. The signal is loud and clear and repeatable from any angle. The dime at eight inches comes in as an iron grunt. The clad dime buried at a depth of ten inches does not register at all in the CZ.
My ground is sandy loam and I am using the stock eight inch concentric coil.

I first tried the test garden with the standard setup I use in the parks.  Sensitivity at 4.x, Disc at zero, volume at 5, ground balance at 3.x. Then, I went Mad Max and upped everything to ten. Same results.

So, at my present level of experience, with the eight inch concentric coil, it appears that the effective depth of the CZ on a U.S. dime is somewhere between six and eight inches. That’s normal for the size of the coil. I am considering buying the ten inch spider coil in the next couple of weeks.

By the way, the unit was calibrated and certified by the man himself, Nasa Tom.

Until I buy and try the ten inch coil, I won’t be doing another review of this unit. After that, I will do a final review at the end of three months.

I have been finding things in my hunts lately, just not anything I want to really talk about. Many wheat cents but all from the 40’s, and many, many Jefferson nickels, the oldest being a 1947. I’ve also found tons of clad.

Hopefully things will get a little more exciting soon.

Thank you for looking!